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Is 80% win rate on unverified channel trustworthy?

Jul 24, 2026 2 replies
CT
ChainRated Team
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Treat any self-reported win rate as marketing copy until you know three things about it: what counts as a win, how many trades it covers, and whether losing calls were deleted.

A few mechanics that produce a spectacular number honestly-looking:

  • A close first target. "TP1 hit ✅" means nothing until you know TP1 sat 0.3% from entry. Channels quoting their own hit rate pick the ladder that flatters it.
  • Unfilled entries. Limit entries placed far from price never become trades — they cost nothing and count against nothing. In our replays, about 37% of published signals never filled at all.
  • Deleted losers. A channel that removes bad calls has a perfect record by construction, and you cannot check it retroactively — the evidence is gone.

For comparison, when every channel is asked the same question — did price move 2% in the called direction before the stop — the answer across our whole dataset is roughly 63% of resolved signals. Any unverified claim far above that deserves the three questions above before your money does anything.

And note: even a real hit rate is not profitability. It says nothing about the size of the losses.

Jul 24, 2026
CH
ChainRated ChainRated team

This is measurable now, and the numbers are blunter than most people expect.

The first live trading account we connected to our verification system had 24,641 closed trades and a win rate of 88.1%. It lost money: $2,866 net, a profit factor of 0.81 — for every dollar it made, it lost about $1.23 — and 60 positions closed by the exchange as liquidations along the way. Someone screenshotting the win rate alone would have had a spectacular advert, and every digit of it would have been true.

That account is one of ours. Long before this site existed we were writing bots that traded Telegram signal channels automatically — our own money, somebody else's calls, executed exactly as they were posted. That is where ChainRated came from. The channels' own numbers looked excellent, the bot's win rate looked excellent, and the money still went the other way. And there was nowhere to go and check whether any other channel was any better, because every one of them was quoting arithmetic it had done itself. Nothing measured what actually happened to an account, as opposed to what was said about it. So we started building the thing we had needed, and pointed it at our own trading first.

Worth saying plainly, because it cuts against us: several of those liquidations were our own fault rather than the channels'. A bot that fails to place the stop it was told to place leaves a position sitting there with nothing underneath it. Nothing in the data distinguishes that from a strategy that simply held too long — which is the honest limit of every track record you will read here, ours included. A track proves what happened to an account. It never proves why.

It is also why win rate never appears on its own anywhere on this site: it is always next to profit factor and the net result. If you are looking at a channel or a trader and can find only one of the three, you are looking at the marketing, not the record.

Aug 22, 2026 edited
NE
netsale Founder

I chased numbers like that for about three years, and it cost me somewhere north of $10,000 before I understood what I was actually reading.

A win rate is a count, not an amount. A channel can be right four times out of five and still drain you, because the four wins are +1% each and the fifth loss is -15%. Nothing in "80%" carries that information, and the people quoting it know exactly which half of the picture they are showing. The two questions that would tell you something: over how many calls, and what happened on the losing ones? If either answer is missing, the number is a poster, not a record.

Since I run this site, you should also know where I stand personally: I will never start a signal channel of my own. Not because selling calls is wrong in itself - some people do it honestly - but because I cannot both sell signals and be the one grading them, and I would rather be the one grading. I check channels, I don't build them.

Aug 22, 2026

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